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Post by rigamortis52 on May 5, 2010 17:11:25 GMT -5
Just as a side not stinger, he was an assistant coach in Toledo so majority blame isn't on him there. Also how about popping in when something positive happens?
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Post by xcheck28 on May 5, 2010 17:15:00 GMT -5
You still have to give Stan credit for what he has accomplished here in Port Huron that hasn't happened in quite a while. we had a team that qualified for playoffs for 3 consecutive seasons, 4 if you count his 1 season coaching the Flags. We made it to the Finals and almost won the whole thing. He has brought in many talented players to the area and also made sure they contributed to the community as well. His record is also commendable as it said in the press release that his record in Port Huron is 2nd to that of Ted Garvins which was 168 wins in 5 seasons. Stan was short 7 wins of beating the record, however he obtained his total in just 4 seasons. What ever quarrels that anyone has, this is something that must be given credit to him as a Coach. I'll give you the contribution to the community point. Yes, I think Stan as a person was an asset to the area. The rest...eh...it's a 6-7 team league, it's not exactly a huge accomplishment to make the playoffs and win a round. Stan's legacy is boring hockey with lazy players not willing to pay the price.
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Post by stinger on May 5, 2010 17:24:57 GMT -5
Just as a side Rigor- he spent 2 years as head coach of Augusta in the ECHL when his teams did not make the playoffs-i made no mention of his time as assistant in the ECHL-get your facts right. I t's not about positive-you 2 spend a whole lot of time kissing up when the rest just give an opinion which when one differs is not positive.
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Post by computerjunkie on May 5, 2010 18:01:43 GMT -5
You still have to give Stan credit for what he has accomplished here in Port Huron that hasn't happened in quite a while. we had a team that qualified for playoffs for 3 consecutive seasons, 4 if you count his 1 season coaching the Flags. We made it to the Finals and almost won the whole thing. He has brought in many talented players to the area and also made sure they contributed to the community as well. His record is also commendable as it said in the press release that his record in Port Huron is 2nd to that of Ted Garvins which was 168 wins in 5 seasons. Stan was short 7 wins of beating the record, however he obtained his total in just 4 seasons. What ever quarrels that anyone has, this is something that must be given credit to him as a Coach. I'll give you the contribution to the community point. Yes, I think Stan as a person was an asset to the area. The rest...eh...it's a 6-7 team league, it's not exactly a huge accomplishment to make the playoffs and win a round. Stan's legacy is boring hockey with lazy players not willing to pay the price. The number of teams in a league does not matter as it is still a professional league. Talent is pulled from this league and some go up and some go down. Most of the people that have played on this team in this league have gone up or made lateral shifts. I knew when I posted this that I was mainly going to get flak from you and Stinger. At least with you xcheck, you don't just spoil threads with constant negativity, you post positive as well when it is warranted, but Stinger, you never have anything positive to say. when something positive is warranted you are no where to be found, but as soon as a negative topic comes up you are out in full force. you are a one sided person. Myself or Rig are not kissing up to anyone. We are giving credit where credit is due.
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Post by computerjunkie on May 5, 2010 18:07:51 GMT -5
Just as a side Rigor- he spent 2 years as head coach of Augusta in the ECHL when his teams did not make the playoffs-i made no mention of his time as assistant in the ECHL-get your facts right. I t's not about positive-you 2 spend a whole lot of time kissing up when the rest just give an opinion which when one differs is not positive. there could have been other controlling variables for those 2 seasons where they were out of playoffs. It could have been the team he was coaching. One thing you have to realize is with that team, he might not have had control over who was brought in, where here because he was the GM as well as Coach, he had control over who he wanted to go after and to recruit to the team. That's not a complete reason why they lost, but do you know why they lost? You can't just look at something on Hockey DB and say well he lost those 2 seasons so he sucks. At least with these past 4 seasons, you can make an opinion based on what you've seen with your own eyes. He still did win a Championship early in his coaching career, but also loo at what is different from those teams and now. the records and win percentage has improved greatly.
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Post by stinger on May 5, 2010 18:19:34 GMT -5
Nothing i said in my post was incorrect- in fact 100% accurate-I said his team went out in the first round of the playoffs 3 of 4 years,Twice his teams had 3-1 leads in a series and couldn't close it out.The ECHL,CHL and IHL-UHL are considered double AA minor pro and in his other stint as a head coach in Augusta his team didn't make the playoffs.There was nothing in my post that was not factual but you two trip over yourselves getting to the computer to sing the praises of Stan ignoring the fact he didn't get it done.That is not negative-that is fact-whether you want to dwell on it or not. Stan did the right thing-he's moved on .
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Post by computerjunkie on May 5, 2010 18:42:40 GMT -5
No one said you were wrong stinger. Again you misconstrue what others post as you have always done. Yes you are 100% correct that those 2 teams didn't make the playoffs, no one was arguing that, but you don't know what went on behind the scenes to make those seasons the way they turned out like we do for the past 3 seasons of the Icehawks. You didn't witness any of those seasons, so you can't tell if the players he had were just not good, or if the team didn't click. With the Icehawks, you were able to see first hand what went wrong and what went right. that's what I was referring to with my last post. Anyways, yes Stan is moving on and I wish him the best, but I'm going to give him the credit he deserves for what he has accomplished while he was here. I'm not going to let the fact that out of 3 seasons his team failed to bring us a championship. I'm going to look at the positive note that he put together a team Port Huron didn't have in quite a long time.
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Post by stinger on May 5, 2010 19:58:47 GMT -5
Actually i was referring to the other half of the siamese twin when he mentioned Drulia's time as assistant in Toledo which i never mentioned and you wanted to post 3 lenghty posts to respond to that.This thread is dead- Stan is gone and i and many others are glad.
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Post by rigamortis52 on May 5, 2010 20:14:09 GMT -5
Sorry for the fact that I had over read the head coach part. I tend to do that a lot because I'm used to college where I have to skim readings, but whatever I must've forgot that Augusta is ECHL by which they may want to rethink that name because it no longer fits the geographic location of the league.
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Post by computerjunkie on May 5, 2010 20:39:30 GMT -5
You're right it is dead. Bring on the next Victim for the boards........
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Post by bigdog on May 5, 2010 23:29:53 GMT -5
well guys every one got there wish and im sure stan will be better off with the next job he has and dont be surprised if it at highter level teams in higher places are knocking on his door why you think he resigned im sure he has something in line very soon just have to wait and see.
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Post by FlagsFan on May 6, 2010 11:36:23 GMT -5
Im told from a solid source that Drulia would have been fired anyway, within a couple days of when he resigned.
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Post by hockeyfan19 on May 7, 2010 3:10:29 GMT -5
i dont want him back but i wont be mad if he is look at it this way before he got here we was the joke of the league, the one that better not be back is sterling Just curious why you hate Sterling so much? He's a pretty solid goalie. He's top 4 in the league. 2.76 GAA and a .912 save %. It's not spectacular, but it's not garbage either. I'm not trying to argue with this. Just you've been saying this about him for quite a while now and I'm just curious why. To be honest, without him, we wouldn't even have been in the playoffs. He's been a crucial part to that. Had he played this whole series, not sure what the outcome would have been. could have been good, could have been bad, but he did help the team get as far as it did. cuz he is a douche and he needs to be in a crazy hospital rither then playing hockey i never said he wasnt good i would love to have him if he ever gets his head right tell then he needs to go
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Post by hockeyfan19 on May 7, 2010 3:19:48 GMT -5
JMO Stan will be part of the Flint Generals Organization. no he wont be part of the generals cuz they get out of the first round haha lol
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Post by budda on May 7, 2010 11:54:05 GMT -5
I totally agree with FlagFan... Stan got the jump and resigned before the Kinney's could fire him. It will also look better on his resume. I heard he cleared out his office as soon as they returned from Fort Wayne. Let's make it clear that he was going to resign after the Kinney's became involved in player roster moves. With that said who and the hell will want to coach with the Kinney's sticking their nose in these decisions. Let the coach/GM make these moves.
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