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Apr 3, 2010 7:58:16 GMT -5
Post by section10 on Apr 3, 2010 7:58:16 GMT -5
That may have been the most boring game of hockey I have ever seen. It was nothing more than 2 very talented non-checking mens league teams waiting for the game to get over so they can drink some beer. Seriously, minor League hockey is dying because there is no entertainment value. Fans want to see hitting, fighting, after whistle skirmishes, and some emotion from their players. Yes, I know cowan stepped up and that was great. But, that didn't happen until there was 3 minutes left in the game and most of the fans had already left or fell asleep. Why do we cut a kid who likes to stir things up and a fan favorite (Kostadine) and keep a Bowman, Lovell, or Turner when you dress 17 skaters. Why is Jason Goulet allowed to spin his helmet in celebration at center ice after knocking down Cowan in a fight while his team is losing 6-0? Why didn't NEW TOUGH GUY Auffrey step up the next shift and pummel a QC player to make a statement on behalf of Cowan and his teammates?
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Apr 3, 2010 8:03:40 GMT -5
Post by xcheck28 on Apr 3, 2010 8:03:40 GMT -5
Most of what you said is absolutely correct. Minor league hockey is more about entertainment value than about winning, at least from a business perspective. Although obviously it's easier to be entertaining when you're winning.
But what makes you think Auffrey is a tough guy? He rarely fights.
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Apr 3, 2010 11:11:43 GMT -5
Post by stinger on Apr 3, 2010 11:11:43 GMT -5
Having a tough grinding hockey team with a top notch enforcer is a total departure from Drulia's coaching methods.
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Apr 3, 2010 12:32:01 GMT -5
Post by The_DirtyBird on Apr 3, 2010 12:32:01 GMT -5
I think the guy is right for the most part but a couple things ill throw out there.
1.) why do we even label Kostadine as a tough guy or our enforcer. Not one team and I mean one team in this league was intimidated by Kostadine and it never would stop them from doing something to us.
2.) we blame Drulia for not having a tough brand of hockey but really its the whole league. Why should Stan bring in a tough guy and keep dressing him when he was nobody to fight. Ok last night, yeah we could of used one but other then that name atleast 10 times out of how many games that we really needed a enforcer. Its not just Drulia's fault its the whole league and really all of minor league hockey thats having this issue with guys just not stepping up and fighting. I mean am I right. Drulia's job is to win games thats what gets him hired or fired. Keeping a guy on the roster who fights when he has nobody to fight really doesnt make sense if your trying to win games
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Apr 3, 2010 12:55:15 GMT -5
Post by section10 on Apr 3, 2010 12:55:15 GMT -5
Auffrey was quoted in the Times Herald as having to step up and fill the role of enforcer now that Kostadine was let go. That's why I brought his name up. Bloomington has Gomez and Sawyer. Fort Wayne has MacMillan and Schrock. QCity has Goulet, Reichilz, and Levesque. Flint has Kovalchik and Ceschon. Muskegon has Krug and Cody. Those are guys willing to fight anybody at anytime. We have who? ? Cowan has 3 or 4 fights this year. The league still has TOUGH guys, WE don't. That's why you say the league is not tough anymore. We don't know because we never see it at McMorran. Opposing tough guys get a night off against the Hawks. Maybe that's why we have had so many injuries. You don't see Bouchard, Robinson, Chaulk, and other top guys on the IR unlike Kinnie and Lardner.
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Apr 3, 2010 13:52:28 GMT -5
Post by xcheck28 on Apr 3, 2010 13:52:28 GMT -5
Well I dont read the Rag Herald so I didn't see Auffrey's quote. He's a solid power forward, but he's no fighter.
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Apr 3, 2010 15:20:02 GMT -5
Post by rigamortis52 on Apr 3, 2010 15:20:02 GMT -5
I think the guy is right for the most part but a couple things ill throw out there. 1.) why do we even label Kostadine as a tough guy or our enforcer. Not one team and I mean one team in this league was intimidated by Kostadine and it never would stop them from doing something to us. 2.) we blame Drulia for not having a tough brand of hockey but really its the whole league. Why should Stan bring in a tough guy and keep dressing him when he was nobody to fight. Ok last night, yeah we could of used one but other then that name atleast 10 times out of how many games that we really needed a enforcer. Its not just Drulia's fault its the whole league and really all of minor league hockey thats having this issue with guys just not stepping up and fighting. I mean am I right. Drulia's job is to win games thats what gets him hired or fired. Keeping a guy on the roster who fights when he has nobody to fight really doesnt make sense if your trying to win games Agree with you 100% DB. That's what I've been trying to put across here for a few months now. As far as Robinson and Bouchard not getting on IR, it's because they don't play much defense and hang out at the blue line so when they do get in the opposing zone it's an odd man rush off the bat.
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Apr 3, 2010 15:38:44 GMT -5
Post by The_DirtyBird on Apr 3, 2010 15:38:44 GMT -5
Auffrey was quoted in the Times Herald as having to step up and fill the role of enforcer now that Kostadine was let go. That's why I brought his name up. Bloomington has Gomez and Sawyer. Fort Wayne has MacMillan and Schrock. QCity has Goulet, Reichilz, and Levesque. Flint has Kovalchik and Ceschon. Muskegon has Krug and Cody. Those are guys willing to fight anybody at anytime. We have who? ? Cowan has 3 or 4 fights this year. The league still has TOUGH guys, WE don't. That's why you say the league is not tough anymore. We don't know because we never see it at McMorran. Opposing tough guys get a night off against the Hawks. Maybe that's why we have had so many injuries. You don't see Bouchard, Robinson, Chaulk, and other top guys on the IR unlike Kinnie and Lardner. Willing to go at anytime? Then why don't they? One look at the penalty minutes in this league will tell you this is not a fighting league. Kostadine got beat up by I think everyone you listed above and with 6 teams whats the point of keeping him around, guys arent going to continue to pound him over and over it'll just get boring
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Apr 3, 2010 16:33:49 GMT -5
Post by topshelf on Apr 3, 2010 16:33:49 GMT -5
Obviously the 1st period was well-played and entertaining, but we seemed to go into cruise mode for the 2nd & 3rd periods. I was very surprised that QC didn't goon it up after being down so bad and out-played. Lack of heart maybe? If they gave half a sh*t they should have atleast showed it. Good to hear Jim M. on the PA again. Much better announcer IMO. Hopefully we can get a W in FW tonight.
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Apr 3, 2010 21:59:16 GMT -5
Post by computerjunkie on Apr 3, 2010 21:59:16 GMT -5
That may have been the most boring game of hockey I have ever seen. It was nothing more than 2 very talented non-checking mens league teams waiting for the game to get over so they can drink some beer. Seriously, minor League hockey is dying because there is no entertainment value. Fans want to see hitting, fighting, after whistle skirmishes, and some emotion from their players. Yes, I know cowan stepped up and that was great. But, that didn't happen until there was 3 minutes left in the game and most of the fans had already left or fell asleep. Why do we cut a kid who likes to stir things up and a fan favorite (Kostadine) and keep a Bowman, Lovell, or Turner when you dress 17 skaters. Why is Jason Goulet allowed to spin his helmet in celebration at center ice after knocking down Cowan in a fight while his team is losing 6-0? Why didn't NEW TOUGH GUY Auffrey step up the next shift and pummel a QC player to make a statement on behalf of Cowan and his teammates? Not sure what game you were watching. I was sitting on top of a ladder behind the Quad City Bench for the whole game, and it took every ounce of myself to not cheer along with the rest of the arena when we scored 6 wonderful goals. We dominated most of the game. I'd say that we played a good 57 minutes of hockey and just made Quad City look like Crap. Sure they got a few good shots, but Sterling stepped up and played the way he should be playing all season. I don't know about you, but each goal we got, I heard one loud arena. If you can sit there and tell me that everyone in there was bored because there wasn't unnecessary brawls, smack talk and skirmishes, you are sadly mistaken.
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Apr 3, 2010 22:04:12 GMT -5
Post by computerjunkie on Apr 3, 2010 22:04:12 GMT -5
As far as Auffrey goes, he might not throw the gloves down, but if you saw this dude close up like I did, I wouln't want to mess with him either. Kostadine, you have to give him credit for trying to pick fights and wanting to get his butt kicked, but that's all it ever was. How many fights did you see him win?? I didn't see many. Also how often do you see these guys from other teams throwing down the gloves to fight?? Not very often either. Hockey as a whole has evolved from the Gordy Howe age. It's not about the fighting anymore. You want to see fights all the time, then sit at home and watch youtube all day long. In the end, you don't hear about winning teams or great players because of how many fights they had, you hear about them because of how many Championships they won, and how many goals they scored. Simple as that. We all like to see a good fight here and there, but to just throw the book on a team and league because you don't see fights every night is absurd. Wake up and smell the coffee. It's not the 50's anymore.
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Apr 3, 2010 22:12:00 GMT -5
Post by computerjunkie on Apr 3, 2010 22:12:00 GMT -5
Auffrey was quoted in the Times Herald as having to step up and fill the role of enforcer now that Kostadine was let go. That's why I brought his name up. Bloomington has Gomez and Sawyer. Fort Wayne has MacMillan and Schrock. QCity has Goulet, Reichilz, and Levesque. Flint has Kovalchik and Ceschon. Muskegon has Krug and Cody. Those are guys willing to fight anybody at anytime. We have who? ? Cowan has 3 or 4 fights this year. The league still has TOUGH guys, WE don't. That's why you say the league is not tough anymore. We don't know because we never see it at McMorran. Opposing tough guys get a night off against the Hawks. Maybe that's why we have had so many injuries. You don't see Bouchard, Robinson, Chaulk, and other top guys on the IR unlike Kinnie and Lardner. How often do you see Bouchard and Robinson fight? You don't, they sit and run their mouths but never back it up. Scoring wise, they are Blue line Campers. You watch, anytime they get the chance, they are on the opposing blue line waiting for a pass. That's why they never get placed on IR. Second, getting on the IR has nothing to do with how physical a team is. Most players end up on the IR because of a bad bounce from a punk, they took a nasty hit (also known as a collision), Or took a cheap shot from another player. You even mentioning the IR is pointless to your post.
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Apr 3, 2010 22:16:14 GMT -5
Post by computerjunkie on Apr 3, 2010 22:16:14 GMT -5
One last thing, if you named off all of these players as Tough guys and Fighters based on their penalty minutes, that isn't a true statement as well. I'm sure most of those times, it was because they tried to do something stupid and got caught doing it. But hey if it makes you happy, lets just create a league full of Tim Hauns, because remember what he did earlier in the season. I'm sure if you saw him lumberjack swing his stick at players all the time you would just be super happy because you have no clue what this sport is actually about.
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ltdave
Enforcer
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Apr 3, 2010 22:56:46 GMT -5
Post by ltdave on Apr 3, 2010 22:56:46 GMT -5
i had a good time and my daughter loved the game...
she knows enough not to start chanting Fight Fight Fight whenever two guys start getting in each others face because at 9yrs old she knows that scoring goals is what wins games...
i believe we need someone willing to get after the goons when they board bedard or collar lardner or cross-check kinnie but to just go out and start fights is counter-productive. remember that snake guy? he was an out and out goon. hes playing WHERE now?
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guido
3rd Liner
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Apr 4, 2010 1:35:27 GMT -5
Post by guido on Apr 4, 2010 1:35:27 GMT -5
No reason to fight in this game. We dominated. Quad City is ready to golf, end of story. Not sure what happened between Goulet and Cowan just saw end of fight. Sterling was fired up though. Quad City is a small team suprise they even have someone that can throwdown. With that being said I do want to see a guy that will fight if needed, were going to need it at playoff time. As for Auffery don't care if he fights, kid can play. Spoke with him briefly and he wants to play hockey, just like Nathe and Hamilton. Good to see guys come in that want to have a job as oppose to players that feel they are grandfathered in. I criticized Stan as much as anyone , but this trade was in our favor.
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